Editing Endbringers (section)

===Vulnerabilities===
An Endbringer can fight at peak capacity as long as their core remains intact;<ref name="Rjla e5" /><ref>Behemoth wasn’t any weaker than he had been.  Not in terms of what he could dish out. - [[Crushed 24.4]]</ref><ref name="8.4 eSpearCharge">Leviathan ran himself through on the chain, the thing spearing deep into his neck and out the back of his torso.  Uncaring, the Endbringer continued to charge at Armsmaster. - [[Extermination 8.4]]</ref><ref>The Endbringer stood, showing none of the frailty or pain it had been displaying seconds ago.  The injuries were there, to be sure, his head hung at an angle because of the way the weight of his head hung on the intact portions of his neck, but he wasn’t suffering, had no trouble putting his full weight on his more injured leg.  Had it been an act? - [[Extermination 8.4]]</ref> that said, the accumulation of damage to their bodies forces them to spend power to regenerate and recover.<ref>I dove in, prepared to make myself more of an immediate threat.  Part of the reason she seemed to have stalled was that she had accumulated a fair bit of damage.  That damage was my target.<br><br>I couldn’t be sure of anything, but I was reasonably confident that she did need to recover if she was hurt.  No way would the Endbringers have operated like they had for as long as they had if they didn’t.  No way would the Endbringers slowed their aggression against Scion in the middle phases of the fighting, falling back to change up how they came at him, if they didn’t need rests, in a sense. - [[Last 20.6]]</ref><ref name="30.6 e2" /> Sustaining heavy body injuries can hamper their mobility<ref>Dust billowed and Leviathan reacted instantly, swiped with one claw, fell onto his side when the damage to his buttocks and the hampered mobility of his tail screwed with his ability to control the movement of his lower body.  His claw swipe went high. - [[Extermination 8.5]]</ref><ref>With the effects of my slash of the Halberd combined with the damage Armsmaster had already done, Leviathan didn’t have the mobility with his tail he otherwise would. - [[Extermination 8.5]]</ref><ref>Rendered effectively one-legged again, Behemoth crawled forward on three limbs.  Alexandria struck him from above, driving him face first into the ground. - [https://parahumans.wordpress.com/2013/06/22/interlude-24/ Excerpt] from [[Interlude 24.x]]</ref> and reduce their combat effectiveness, especially against opponents such as [[Scion]]<ref name="17.2 c1">'''STH:''' Scion stomps Endbringers like it’s the easiest thing in the world (though Smurfy here does seem to be giving him a lot more trouble than Leviathan, by virtue of dodging).<br><br>'''wildbow:''' Keep in mind that Leviathan was fairly battered by the time Scion showed up. - [https://parahumans.wordpress.com/2013/01/09/migration-17-2/#comment-8880 Conversation] with Wildbow on [[Migration 17.2]]</ref><ref>The others [Khonsu, Bohu, and Tohu] were too broken to fight. - [https://parahumans.wordpress.com/2013/10/26/speck-30-6/ Excerpt] from [[Speck 30.6]]</ref> and the [[Titan]]s.<ref>I had to hope the damage we were doing was enough.  That we could put her down or keep her down for long enough she wouldn’t be up for a fight with Titan Fortuna. - [[Last 20.7]]</ref><ref>Titan Skadi was there too, her blade-hand at the Simurgh’s back.  Digital readouts read that the Custodian Titan was active in the area.<br><br>All dogpiling the Simurgh, who struggled to make contact with Titan Fortuna. - [[Last 20.a]]</ref>

Although the durability of an Endbringer is incredible, attacks where some space, time, or reality warping is in play disproportionately damage their bodies.<ref name="SBnotesEB e5">Keep in mind that in virtually every case where a Endbringer suffers a deep and grievous wound, some space/time/reality warping is in full sway. Even for Phir Se, you could suggest there is something temporal infused into the stored energy, giving it more oomph. - Wildbow on Reddit, [https://forums.spacebattles.com/posts/19115968 archived on Spacebattles]</ref> After [[Tecton]] created an opening in [[Behemoth]]'s chest by launching an object charged by [[Foil]],<ref name="24.x eFoil" /><ref>'''RazorSmile:''' Skitter’s idea, Annex to merge the metal bits together, Foil to grant it penetrative powers and Alexandria to throw?<br><br>'''wildbow:''' Tecton piledrivers set into the bars at the side, to launch. - [https://parahumans.wordpress.com/2013/06/22/interlude-24/#comment-29387 Conversation] with Wildbow on [[Interlude 24.x]]</ref> [[Chevalier]] inserted his cannonblade into the wound and made his sword grow larger.<ref>He made it grow.<br><br>He made the sword grow, from ten to twenty feet in length.  It was more by the growth than by any action on Chevalier’s part that it extended into the wound.  The weapon penetrated into the scar Weaver’s crew had created, as close to the core as Chevalier could get it.<br><br>He made it grow to its greatest possible length, a full thirty feet, his head turned skyward to the monster that glowed silver and black. - [https://parahumans.wordpress.com/2013/06/22/interlude-24/ Excerpt] from [[Interlude 24.x]]</ref> This active use of space warping let Chevalier part Endbringer flesh with his cannonblade until it touched Behemoth's core; the sword then broke because of the core's space warping.<ref name="24.x e7" /><ref name="Rcore e1" /><ref name="Rcore e2" /> [[Phir Sē]]'s blast of light, capable of destroying India,<ref>“Indiscriminate,” ''Phir Sē echoed me''.  “India gone.  You die, even down here.” - [https://parahumans.wordpress.com/2013/06/15/crushed-24-3/ Excerpt] from [[Crushed 24.3]]</ref> could tear away around 80% of Behemoth's body.<ref name="24.4 eBehemothEighty" /> He charged up this "time bomb" for three days<ref>“How long has it been since you slept?”  I asked.<br><br>“Three days.  We thought an Endbringer would attack soon, so I prepared, to be ready when the time came.  Too early, I had to stop, restart.  This time, he came, but I am weary.  The talking, is good.  Distracting without being dangerous.  Continue, please.”<br><br>''What happens if he nods off?''  I wondered, looking at the ‘time bomb’.  The same thing he’d stated would happen if he were killed or knocked out? - [[Crushed 24.4]]</ref> and maybe infused something temporal into this stored energy.<ref name="SBnotesEB e5" /> [[Eidolon]] tore into [[the Simurgh]] with a reality warping power of some kind to drive her off during her attack on Flight BA178.<ref name="25.6 eWarp" /><ref name="25.6 e2" /> 

[[Shadow Stalker]] can phase her shots inside [[Leviathan]]'s body.<ref>Shadow Stalker ran within twenty feet of the Endbringer, firing her twin crossbows.  The shots penetrated this time, disappearing into Leviathan’s chest, presumably fading back in while inside him. - [[Extermination 8.5]]</ref><ref>Her [Foil's] power wasn’t Shadow Stalker’s, from back in Brockton Bay.  It went through everything, yes.  Shadow Stalker could do something similar.  But it left a hole, where Shadow Stalker’s hadn’t.  One shot, then two- it created an aperture with the same diameter as the bullet. - [[Heavens 12.8]]</ref> However, she must get close to an Endbringer and has other weaknesses, which limits her effectiveness.<ref name="8.5 eFar" /><ref>'''Shadow Stalker''' - She wasn't kept around because she's useful against Endbringers. She isn't. Look at that scene again. She's forced to get too close and she gets creamed. She's super vulnerable to energy in her shadow state (nix Behemoth), can't really close in vs. a fast or mobile target (nix Leviathan for the most part, Simurgh), is emotionally imbalanced (nix Simurgh) and doesn't do any meaningful damage. - Wildbow [https://forums.spacebattles.com/posts/14174319 on Spacebattles]</ref>

Several possible ways to kill an Endbringer exist. [[Scion]]'s Stilling blasts can disintegrate molecular bonds<ref>Scion equipped himself to be able to fight pretty much any threat. His big weapon is a very versatile 'stilling' ability, which lets him cancel out wavelengths, which can be applied in a variety of ways, defensive or offensive - it lets him counteract, manipulate, and cancel virtually any parahuman or human generated effect. He can cancel out heat, eliminate sound, break Grey Boy's ability, disintegrate molecular bonds, etc. He can do so with beams, thrown orbs/bullets, a light he emanates, and a personal forcefield, among a variety of other mechanisms. - Wildbow [https://forums.spacebattles.com/posts/15025980 on Spacebattles]</ref> and eventually destroy an Endbringer, as seen when his sustained attacks disintegrated [[Behemoth]]<ref name="24.x e8">Behemoth’s silhouette thrashed as he tried to move out from beneath the shaft of light, but Scion only reoriented the beam, keeping it fixed on his target.<br><br>''…sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty, twenty-one…''<br><br>The light ceased.  Behemoth was gone.  A plume of dust rose from the earth, at the very limits of their vision.<br><br>Scion plunged beneath the ground, heedless of the intervening terrain.<br>[...]<br>Again, he held Behemoth in his hands.  Thinner than a skeleton, the Endbringer was little more than a stick figure from Chevalier’s vantage point.<br><br>Only this time, with a flare of golden light to accompany the movement, he tore the Endbringer in two.  The legs came free of the pelvis as two individual pieces, and Scion obliterated them with a pulse of the golden light.<br>[...]<br>Scion fired one more beam, and the darkness was obliterated, swept away.<br><br>The silhouette of the Endbringer flickered, then disintegrated. - [https://parahumans.wordpress.com/2013/06/22/interlude-24/ Excerpt] from [[Interlude 24.x]]</ref> and [[Leviathan]].<ref name="30.6 e1" /> An attack with enough force to destroy all life on the surface of a planet can kill an Endbringer;<ref name="Rplanet e1">
:The whole "planet-busting beam" was a translation error. All it really meant was that it would destroy all life on the surface.
Punch that counters said beam & strikes like that one did is still good enough. - [https://www.reddit.com/r/CharacterRant/comments/5nna4j/a_planetary_attack_can_kill_an_endbringer/ Referenced Comment by Wildbow on Reddit]</ref><ref name="Rplanet e2">
'''GreatWyrmGold:''' I suppose it depends on if you tackle the question from a Watsonian or a Doylist point of view. Doyle would agree with your logic and conclusion; Watson would point out that Saitama's demonstrated feats fall short of those required to defeat Behemoth (assuming his analysis coincides with mine); and then both would ask who the hell you were and where you took them.<br><br>'''Wildbow:''' Nope.<br>[...]<br>'''viking_:''' That doesn't jive at all with what you've said about their durability in the past.<br><br>'''Wildbow:''' Sure it does. Think about it. - [https://www.reddit.com/r/CharacterRant/comments/5nna4j/a_planetary_attack_can_kill_an_endbringer/ Referenced Replies by Wildbow on Reddit]</ref> while such an attack would not entirely destroy a typical Endbringer body, enough force would transmit to the core to kill it.<ref name="Rfav e1">Put all of that aside and look at his fighting ability, the highest end of what he's done (punch the planet buster [surface wiping] beam, nullify/exceed that energy and have the force of the punch still affect the landscape halfway across the world) puts him on a level equal to or surpassing String Theory's Drive weapons. Could a hit from that heavy a punch conduct enough force through Behemoth to get to the Endbringer's core? I think it's likely/possible and would have to, barring extraordinary evidence to the contrary popping up in OPM, say 'definite kill'. - [https://redd.it/49fd14 Wildbow on Reddit]</ref> Similarly, a proper hit from a [[String Theory]] Driver weapon with the kind of power to push the[[Space#The_Moon | Moon]] out of orbit could kill an Endbringer.<ref>Dauntless, too, was in the path of the beam.  He had his shield, and he was rooted into the ground in a way that resisted being thrust away with the kind of power that could push a moon out of orbit, but the grazing hit still demolished one of his arms, tore out a chunk of the Titan’s side.<br>[...]<br>But he had to stay out of the Simurgh’s range.  She was weakened, he was relatively clear of her scream, and that weakened her predictive power.  It meant his shots landed, and she was forced to choose between destruction and a grazing hit, instead of destruction and a miss. - [[Last 20.a]]</ref> As a result, in such a scenario, Endbringers would cooperate and carefully plan their appearances to avoid any setup of a proper hit.<ref name="Rfav e2">Not going to happen in any incarnation of the Wormverse, or Behemoth would be built stronger to counteract (Or, as in the case of String Theory, Endbringer cooperation/timing would keep her from ever being able to set up a proper hit). - [https://redd.it/49fd14 Wildbow on Reddit]</ref> However, in [[The_Simurgh#The_Simurgh's_Final_Flight|the Simurgh's final flight]], [[Defiant]] was able to fire G-Driver blasts at her.<ref>The benefit of using ''this'' weapon was that it didn’t require exceptionally good aim.<br><br>An area of the city a fifth of a mile wide and a mile long was pulverized.  Buildings were driven into ground, and broke into chunks no larger than a human head.  The wavelength of the beam let those chunks lift up for a fraction of a second before the next wave of the beam thrust them down again with the same force as before.<br><br>The Simurgh was almost, ''almost'' out of the path of the beam.  He clipped her, and she reoriented, pulling out of the way even as she was hurled back and down.<br><br>Much of the lower body she had been building broke away from the force of the impact.  A wing shattered.  The remainder was lost in the plume of smoke that rose from the tract of land he had blasted. - [[Last 20.a]]</ref><!--

There is no story, written by me, or written by One, staying true to the characters as presented, where I can see Behemoth winning.
<br><br>See my answer about the Justice League vs. the Endbringers for a similar slant on my line of thinking - that given how the characters are written and how they have been written in the past, and to a far lesser extent, how they have been executed as narrative devices, the Justice League would probably find a way to win, but it would be costly, and if the Simurgh was in play then they would probably win the battle but lose the war, with far reaching ramifications for the greater plot. By the methodology of the Who Would Win subreddit, which defines characters by their greatest feats under the weakest writers, the Justice League has done some pretty ridiculous stuff. So I think it's likely and possible they would come out ahead. Add the narrative aspect and it's very likely.
<br><br>In One Punch Man, Saitama is defined by his ability to tank any hit and to defeat any enemy in one hit. He defeats anything and anyone in one punch. You can't say 'We haven't seen him fight a hard enough enemy yet' because his character, identity and his whole series is built around this defining characteristic (even the name of the series!). It is integral to him and everything about him.
<br><br>Put all of that aside and look at his fighting ability, the highest end of what he's done (punch the planet buster beam, nullify/exceed that energy and have the force of the punch still affect the landscape halfway across the world) puts him on a level equal to or surpassing String Theory's Drive weapons. Could a hit from that heavy a punch conduct enough force through Behemoth to get to the Endbringer's core? I think it's likely/possible and would have to, barring extraordinary evidence to the contrary popping up in OPM, say 'definite kill'. Not going to happen in any incarnation of the Wormverse, or Behemoth would be built stronger to counteract (Or, as in the case of String Theory, Endbringer cooperation/timing would keep her from ever being able to set up a proper hit). As is, only Scion is capable of it in Wormverse. But put the two in an arena separate of external factors, and one punch from Saitama would kill the Endbringer.
<br><br>But honestly, I think the most important factor is that any scenario one could paint where he goes up against an enemy and doesn't win is going to be one where Saitama has been incorrectly portrayed, and the fight thus doesn't count. - [https://redd.it/49fd14 Yet another reply by Wildbow on Reddit]</ref>

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Endbringers are also vulnerable to several other powers that do not fall into the [[All-or-Nothing]] category. A Poundtown <small>(Sunder x Muscle)</small> [[Brute]]<ref>'''chandra381:''' You mean Sunder x Muscle Brute right? I would suspect it is short for "Poundtown". What would such a brute look like? Raw mass and offensive tools (the Muscle aspect) + aggressive defensive measures that weaken foes (the Sunder aspect).<br><br>So you basically hit someone - and keep on hitting them till it's game over since they become weaker or hurt themselves if they try to fight back, I would imagine.<br><br>'''Wildbow:'''  100% right. - Conversation with Wildbow on Reddit</ref><!-- https://redd.it/9zczt7 --> can theoretically kill an Endbringer if they could survive long enough in close quarters to pressure it with repeated attacks.<ref>Brute form that is especially equipped to deliver debilitating injuries and status conditions.<br>[...]<br>One of the following options applies on hit (chosen once at character creation & locked in):
*The first Brawn-based melee attack or attack made with the mutated weapon (if any) in a given round inflicts a special bleeding status, while reducing the higher of the target's Brawn or Dexterity scores by 1 for 3 rounds. Each subsequent hit resets the duration while compounding the effect (adding further bleeding). Hits against targets that can't bleed do the ability score damage twice. If the ability scores are both 1 when they should be lowered, annihilate the target instead. Those who were bleeding have all remaining blood evacuate their body with the final blow.
*As above, except as follows: tears muscle, lowering max # of attacks per turn (to minimum of 1) and maximum movement distance by 5'. Ability score damage is to Brawn and Athletics. Hits against targets without any means of muscle-based locomotion do double the ability score damage instead. Annihilated targets with muscles collapse like ragdolls, their hearts as the final muscle to be torn from position.
*As above, except as follows: each hit rattles the senses, inducing blinding pain, with 1d4-2 rolled on the minor shock table (no effect on a 1-2, -2 to Wits checks on a 3, confuse on a 4). Also includes pain status that is focus-relevant and induces minor wounds on skill use. Ability score damage is to Dex and Wits. Hits against targets immune to shocks do two instances of ability score damage instead. Annihilated subjects with brains are rendered vegetative with no hope of recovery.
*As above, but delivers damage to internal structures such as bones and brain. Induces ''pain'' (trigger: taking further damage) and overall loss of functionality: every N actions the target takes, they lose half an action, ending their turn or having reduced capacity on their next turn, with N being 2+ the target's Guts, -1 per hit after the first. Pausing for rest or healing resets the countdown to a missed action. Ability score damage is done to Brawn, Know, and Guts. No target is immune to the loss of functionality, but some may be immune to minor wounds from pain. Annihilated targets are caved in.
The status and ability score damage is delivered by special mechanisms. Ability score damage is always dealt, provided the subject has some. Even something like an Endbringer could be brought to 0, theoretically, if the Brute could survive in melee and press the attack for long enough.<br><br>Ability score damage is recovered at the rate of 1 per round, recovering the stat of the target's choice (they choose if they want to regain focus or try to stand up straighter, for example). When not stated, duration for status effects is the 3 rounds from most recent hit or until they're patched up (for bleeding, as an example). - Comment by Wildbow on Reddit</ref><!-- https://redd.it/f7aq2x --> When [[the Simurgh]] was flung into [[Sleeper]]'s storm,<ref name="II20.a eFlung" /> which is not All-or-Nothing,<ref name="II16.2 e1">Naphtha was striding down the hallway, coming in our direction.  He stopped us.  “Changers?”<br><br>“No changers in our team,” Tristan said.  “Why?”<br><br>Naphtha getting close enough meant I felt the oil touch my skin, as it touched everything in a certain radius of Naphtha.  He pulled it away from me as it touched me, but my skin crawled with the memory of the feel of it.<br><br>“Another crisis.  Similar to the others.  Going to announce it to the dining hall,” Naphtha explained.  “I don’t suppose any of you feel brave enough to go up against Sleeper?  Absolute invulnerability better than Alexandria’s, special brains, absolute annihilation powers?” - [[From Within 16.2]]</ref> she was taken out of the picture entirely.<ref>The Simurgh lay prone within the storm that was the Sleeper.  Unmoving.  That hadn’t been him.  That had been Dauntless, acting with the benefit of Titan Fortuna’s sight, guiding the direction of the blast.<br><br>The storm crackled, boiled, popped, the colors taking on a rainbow sheen that somehow felt it shouldn’t make sense with the way the colors unfolded.<br><br>That would be enough to take her out of the picture. - [[Last 20.a]]</ref><ref name="II20.10 e1">The Simurgh was out of action.  Sleeper had her. - [[Last 20.10]]</ref> She was still dealt with even after he retreated from the area.<ref name="II20.b e1">“First of all, the Sleeper is retreating.  He is not an immediate danger, and we will let you know as soon as we can, if that changes.”<br>[...]<br>“The Sleeper was lured to the city specifically to slow down the Titans and was used to trap the Simurgh.  Some of our best minds and strategists are confident the Simurgh is dealt with.”<br>[...]<br>“Didn’t you want to be a lawyer?” Presley asked, leaning onto the snow-dusted railing.  In the distance, Sleeper’s cloud was receding. - [[Last 20.b]]</ref> Although [[Rain O'Fire Frazier]]'s power to render a target fragile<ref>“Uh. Mine is a blaster power,” Rain said. “It’s pretty mediocre. I shoot things or people and they’re vulnerable to being broken for a short while after. To put it simply.” - [[Flare 2.6]]</ref> is not All-or-Nothing,<ref name="II11.11 e1">A silver blade cut through the air.  Precipice’s answer to Love Lost’s scream.  It hit the chains that Hookline had made, but it drew no silver lines.<br><br>''They’re protected by Hookline’s power'', I thought. - [[Blinding 11.11]]</ref> even when his power was at its weakest,<ref>Rain was over there, I saw.  Awake, coherent, trying to help out.  But Rain’s power was at its weakest right now.  He could create the blades, but he couldn’t throw them. - [[Last 20.7]]</ref> his blades can affect an Endbringer. With the help of [[Victoria Dallon]] and other capes to close the distance, Rain hit the Simurgh and carved out a silver line from shoulder to back, to hip.<ref>Someone shot one chunk.  Others warped, veering out of the way.<br><br>A pillar of black-blue Capricorn stone speared out below us, more a barrier than the chunks it shoved out of the way, then dissipated into motes of light a second later.<br><br>We closed the distance, and the blade met the Simurgh’s silver flesh, carving out a shimmering silver line, so close in color that it looked like there was no line at all.  From shoulder to back, to hip. - [[Last 20.7]]</ref> When Victoria made the call to kick this line,<ref>There was a dull rumble as more of our surroundings tore away, ready to smash us, and I decided to make the call.  To break away, to say ''this is enough''.<br><br>I couldn’t drop Rain, or risk losing him, which meant I had to use ''me''.  I kicked out, hard, my foot meeting the silver line.  It flared, bright, and the Simurgh’s wings spread out around us, until they were ninety percent of what I could see.  The pain of the jolt reaching my ribs and collarbone made my vision split.  I couldn’t see straight. - [[Last 20.7]]</ref> the damaged Endbringer split along the line; the Simurgh lost more than half of her body.<ref>There was a crash far below us.<br><br>I managed to focus my vision on a distant point, feeling like a baby trying to focus her eyes for the first time.<br><br>Below us, more than half of the Simurgh’s body, including one arm, some smaller wings, and both legs, lay on the basement level of the facility.  The accumulated damage from the Wardens, Rain, the beams, and the temperature shifts had added up enough for it to break away entirely.  It lay there, limp and still.<br><br>The rest of her had slipped away. - [[Last 20.7]]</ref> Other members of [[the Mall Cluster]], such as [[Cradle]], can presumably do the same with their version of Rain's power.<ref name="II12.7 e1">It wasn’t a bullet I had to worry about.  I was flying, thinking I was safe, when lines began to appear.  Silvery, but crisp, like slices in reality, reaching well over the building.<br><br>Not meant for me, but dangerous all the same.  I flew past one, and the Wretch had a limb extended.  I felt the Wretch get sliced, felt the dim sensation that was the Wretch’s extended being part.  The forcefield didn’t collapse.  It cut.<br><br>A gaping hole in my forcefield, now, where there had been a bit of torso and shoulder. - [[Heavens 12.7]]</ref><ref name="II12.8">I took flight, aiming to go over, and saw Cradle move in the same instant he turned his head my way.  I made myself stop, twisting, as the lines appeared.<br><br>Sudden appearance, each one sharper than any blade, and capable of cutting through powered defenses. - [[Heavens 12.8]]</ref>

[[Armsmaster]]'s [[nano-thorn]] Halberd can sever molecular bonds<ref>“This cloud around my blade?  Nanotechnology.  Nano-structures engineered to slide between atoms, sever molecular bonds.  Cuts through anything.  Everything.  Like a sharp knife through air.” - [[Extermination 8.4]]</ref> and cut deep into Endbringer flesh (i.e., 70 to 80% of the layers) until the nano-thorns reached material too dense to penetrate.<ref>I’d seen him fight Endbringers in that suit, seen how he could move as fast as anyone who wasn’t a speedster, turning his spinning weapon and those shield-like extensions on his armor into a whirling flurry of nano-thorns, cutting through seventy to eighty percent of the Endbringer’s flesh before they reached material too dense to penetrate. - [[Sting 26.2]]</ref><ref>Dust rose from the claw as the blade sank deep, blood poured out, but the blade remained fixed in place.  Armsmaster tugged, failed to dislodge it.  He tried to pull away, but I could see Leviathan had caught onto his hand and wrist with his clawtips, while the Halberd sat embedded in his ‘palm’.<br><br>“How!?” Armsmaster roared. - [[Extermination 8.4]]</ref><ref name="18.3 eDensity" /> However, [[the Simurgh]]'s nano-thorn gladius derived from a nearby [[Defiant]] could hit [[Leviathan]]'s core<ref name="28.5 e1" /> because she attuned it to the right frequency or setting.<ref>Lung was the next one to speak.  “What did she do?”<br><br>“Upgraded Leviathan,” Tattletale said.  “Attuned some device to the right frequency or setting, then tapped into his core without doing too much harm to Leviathan.  Fed things into there.  Knowledge, data, nanotechnology.”<br><br>Defiant’s head turned, as if Tattletale had said something.<br><br>“Yeah,” Tattletale said.  “Nanotech.  Why do you think the fins were turning water to mist?”<br><br>“''My'' tech?”  Defiant asked.<br><br>“Among one or two other advancements.  If the density rules are in effect, I’d bet those fins are just as hard to cut through as Leviathan’s arm or torso.  Disintegration effect, maybe something else.”  - [https://parahumans.wordpress.com/2013/09/10/cockroaches-28-5/ Excerpt] from [[Cockroaches 28.5]]</ref> Indeed, [[Wildbow]] speculates that Armsmaster could theoretically breach Leviathan's core, though it would take him an unreasonably long time to figure it out while also being in close quarters with the Endbringer.<ref>'''Embrionoclast:''' say hes a giant cockroach like taylor and gets to fight leviathan like 5 times could he get enough info to ever beat leviathan<br><br>'''manic™:''' He has no way to breach the core<br>So no<br><br>'''Wildbow:''' He could breach the core.  But it would take an unreasonably long time and all the while he's dealing with Leviathan being in arm's reach. - Conversation with Wildbow on Parahumans Discord</ref>

As Endbringers lack perfect defense, [[All-or-Nothing]] attacks can penetrate their defenses and are thus capable of theoretically killing an Endbringer.<ref name="SBabsolute e2">Siberian, Damsel, Scrub, Flechette, and Grey Boy are Worm capes at the 'if anything can penetrate that defense, these guys penetrate that defense' level of attack. - Wildbow on Reddit, [https://forums.spacebattles.com/posts/31038388 archived on Spacebattles]</ref><ref name="SBabsolute e1" /> Attacks that ignore the laws of physics can penetrate the core of an Endbringer.<ref name="Rjla e4">As a rule, the only things that are actually going to penetrate the center of their bodies are things that ignore the laws of physics. - [http://www.reddit.com/r/whowouldwin/comments/2sju2u/the_endbringers_worm_vs_the_justice_league/cnqkz88 Wildbow on Reddit]</ref> [[Flechette]]'s charged shots can pierce right through an Endbringer,<ref>'''Flechette, Lily''' – [...] Her power allows her to imbue nonliving material with the ability to ignore select laws of physics, to the point that they can pass through virtually anything, including Endbringers and forcefields, among other defensive powers. - [https://parahumans.wordpress.com/cast-spoiler-free/cast/ Cast (In Depth)]</ref> as demonstrated against [[Leviathan]]<ref name="8.5 eFar">One of crossbow-girl's shots, like a needle several feet in length, speared under the side of Leviathan's neck, out the top. Shadow Stalker's shots, at the same time, failed to penetrate Leviathan's hard exterior.<br><br>“Flechette!  I’m getting closer!” Shadow Stalker called out, looking back at her new partner.<br><br>“Careful!” the crossbow-girl – Flechette, I took it – replied, loading another shot. - [[Extermination 8.5]]</ref><ref>Flechette fired a needle through Leviathan’s knee, and the Endbringer’s leg buckled.  He collapsed into a kneeling position, the knee striking the ground. - [[Extermination 8.5]]</ref> and [[Behemoth]].<ref>He clapped, and a shockwave tore through the area.  Rachel was already directing the dogs; they moved so there was cover, buildings between them and Behemoth.  The chain, imbued by Foil’s ability to shear through anything, cut through the buildings as though there was nothing there.<br><br>And just like that, they made it.  The dogs passed Behemoth, a hundred and twenty feet of chain maintained between them, and the chain cut through him as easily as Foil’s arbalest bolts had. - [[Crushed 24.4]]</ref><ref name="24.x eFoil">Something flew past him, shearing straight through Behemoth’s chest.  A wheel of metal, thin, with two bars sticking out of the center.  It cut through the Endbringer like he wasn’t even there. - [https://parahumans.wordpress.com/2013/06/22/interlude-24/ Excerpt] from [[Interlude 24.x]]</ref> She can kill one with a direct hit to their core:<ref name="Reb e1">'''Nekron-akaMrSkeletal:''' I guess that works. I was actually wondering about sting. If Foil had been at the behemoth fight could she have finished [[behemoth]] when his core was exposed?<br><br>'''Wildbow:''' Yep. - [https://redd.it/3ofej1 Reply by Wildbow on Reddit]</ref> other members of [[the Subway Cluster]], such as [[March]], can presumably do the same with their version of Flechette's power.<ref name="II12.all e1">“I’m invulnerable,” Caryatid growls.<br><br>“I blow up invulnerable people,” their March answers.<br><br>“She does,” Vista says.  “Go.  Run.  Make sure everyone’s on the same page.” - [[Heavens 12.all]]</ref><ref>The likes of Scrub, Damsel, Foil, or March would be able to damage Alexandria. - Wildbow on Reddit, [https://forums.spacebattles.com/posts/34159831 archived on Spacebattles]</ref> After discovering the full ramifications of Flechette's power during the [[Battle against Behemoth]], the Endbringers changed their methodology to better avoid situations where Flechette could set up a killing blow.<ref name="Rcore e3">The issue was that after they discovered the full ramifications of her powers, the Endbringers changed their methodology. Leviathan made hit and run attacks that meant he was gone and attacking another city before Scion/Foil/anyone else reached a location, Simurgh attacked abstract targets, Khonsu teleported, and Tohu/Bohu were difficult to pin down or find easy answers to. - Wildbow on Reddit, [https://forums.spacebattles.com/posts/18058714 archived on Spacebattles]</ref>

[[Scrub]]'s [[All-or-Nothing]] explosions can ignore the defenses of the Endbringers.<ref>“Scrub,” I said.<br><br>“He’s working under Ballistic,” Tattletale said.  “I’ll get him on board by any means.  He’s one of the few people, short of Flechette, who can deal guaranteed damage to an Endbringer or Endbringer-Lite, and I have ideas about him and how I could use him.” - [[Queen 18.5]]</ref> Similarly, [[Victoria Dallon]] notes that [[Damsel of Distress III]] is a heavy hitter against [[the Simurgh]];<ref>For our offensive tricks, our heavy hitters were out. [...] Damsel was injured and uncooperative. - [[Last 20.7]]</ref> her blasts can pop [[the Siberian]] (i.e., the highest level of invulnerability<ref name="SBabsolute e1">Can't cite anything, but there's a line that sorta appears in the story, where you run into the perfects (perfect defense, perfect offense) and stuff gets fucky - and the rule of thumb is that 'unless your ability beats -everything-, it doesn't beat this'. For processing power Contessa's ability would be on this level (as with Flechette's Sting, Clockblocker's inviolability, Siberian's invulnerability). - Wildbow on Reddit, [https://forums.spacebattles.com/posts/29824546 archived on Spacebattles]</ref>), tear right through a [[Titan]], and are presumably effective against [[Sleeper]]'s storm.<ref name="SBashley e1">'''Wildbow:'''
:i really doubt ashley can pop sibby
Ashley could pop Siberian<br>It's why she came up as a possible thing in relation to Sleeper<br>Ashley was named in a WoG a while back talking about the 'anything but' powers and stuff like Alexandria Invulnerability. - Comment by Wildbow on Discord, [https://forums.spacebattles.com/posts/62429974 archived on Spacebattles]</ref><ref>There were capes with the sort of power where it didn’t matter what the fuck they were shooting, they’d put a hole in that something.  Damsel’s power was like that.  So was Foil’s.<br>[...]<br>Oberon pushed over the building, and in the process, collided with Damsel.  She’d been within the upper floor of the building, using her power to hold and contain a large sphere of the annihilation energy.<br><br>Sveta evacuated her as the building came to pieces, and Oberon fell over, a large hole in his upper chest.<br><br>It didn’t stop him, but one of his arms hung at his side. - [[Radiation 18.6]]</ref> 

Powers which rely on temporal manipulation are effective at slowing or stopping Endbringers. By touching an Endbringer, [[Clockblocker]] can temporarily freeze it in time.<ref>It took me a second to realize what had happened.  Leviathan hung frozen mid-pounce, and his emerging afterimage similarly stood there, frozen in time.  In the midst of the afterimage was Clockblocker, half-immersed in water. - [[Extermination 8.3]]</ref> Although freezing an Endbringer does not damage it, freezing other objects such as wires and then forcing an Endbringer through can pierce their defenses.<ref name="3.3 e1">“The upside is that whoever he touches is also untouchable.  Can’t be hurt, can’t be moved.  Period.  He uses that defensively, and he can do stuff like throw paper or cloth in the air and freeze it in time, making an unbreakable shield.  You don’t want to run into something that’s frozen.  A car that drove into the side of a piece of paper that Clockblocker had touched would be cut in two before it budged the paper.” - [[Agitation 3.3]]</ref><ref>On the monitors, a successful hit on Eidolon’s part struck Behemoth into the grid of wires.  It had taken time for the Endbringer to approach the wires, set safely outside of his kill range, and some were already coming free of Clockblocker’s power.  Still, they sank deep, cutting a diamond-shaped pattern into his hide, shoulder to heel.  Alexandria charged, trying to drive it home, and Behemoth struck out with one claw, a swipe. - [[Crushed 24.4]]</ref> When [[Leviathan]] charged at [[Armsmaster]], Armsmaster fired out a grappling hook that he then froze in time.<ref>“For the record, that last trick was a temporal stasis trigger, with thanks owed to the cooperation of a subordinate of mine.  Drains my battery reserves, but you don’t understand that, do you?”<br><br>Leviathan lunged, and Armsmaster fired out the grappling hook, stopped it in mid air by freezing it in time. - [[Extermination 8.4]]</ref> Leviathan ran himself through this frozen object: it speared deep into the neck and out the back of his torso.<ref name="8.4 eSpearCharge" /> [[Gray Boy]] can effectively neutralize an Endbringer should he trap one within multiple time loops.<ref name="IRC-1">8:46 PM <•Wildbow> Chances are good Gray Boy's power would bind one of the Endbringer's limbs, it would pull free, doing massive damage to itself.<br>8:46 PM <soulpelt|> Huh, okay<br>8:46 PM <•Wildbow> And it would likely stop holding back up until Gray Boy was dead<br>[...]<br>8:47 PM <•Wildbow> If you have multiple effects in place and you trap the whole Endbringer, it'll count as dead.<br>[...]<br>8:48 PM <Alathon> by rights.. he should be able to solo leviathan with that<br>8:48 PM <•Wildbow> No. - [https://forums.spacebattles.com/posts/14919700 Answer by Wildbow] on IRC, archived on Spacebattles</ref>